The crowds that turned up for the UPPET examination final week had been seen as equally an indication of the state authorities’s mismanagement as of the size of the shortage of jobs. How do you see it?

AZAD: India doesn’t have democracy anymore, as a result of democracy is the rule of individuals. Now, there’s a monarchy, which appears to be like like democracy. Throughout elections, we see political events make massive guarantees for jobs. Some say they’ll give 2 crore jobs. You will need to have seen that earlier than elections in UP earlier this yr, the federal government began giving rations to individuals… It is a bribe for votes. Political events lie earlier than elections. The youth are additionally struggling due to this. They research and hope for a authorities job… The situation of unemployment is so unhealthy that for 10 vacancies of even a Class IV job, 5 lakh individuals apply. Out of the 5 lakh, two lakh individuals are well-qualified. We aren’t even utilizing the capabilities of the nation nicely.

We noticed the type of mismanagement that occurred in the course of the UPPET examination. I don’t consider in criticism however everybody was saying that had the examination been a non secular occasion, flower petals would have been showered on the aspirants. I consider the Chief Minister of the state ought to have been conscious of the challenges. In spiritual occasions, new trains are run, and in election rallies too. You’re the guardian of the state because the CM, and you need to have ensured that the scholars get to journey in protected situations…

He (Yogi Adityanath) retains speaking of the protection of sisters and daughters. They needed to endure a lot… Who will take accountability for this? The CM ought to keep in mind that individuals haven’t voted for you as a way to sit in your residence to carry out spiritual rituals. You could have been voted to energy to satisfy the aspirations of the youth. If you happen to can’t, then please resign.

Protests are ongoing at Allahabad College and Banaras Hindu College by pupil teams in opposition to the hike in charges.

AZAD: The Bhim Military pupil wing is a part of the protests… These universities have college students from Scheduled Castes, Scheduled Tribes and minority teams — those that are financially weak. This hike will make schooling inaccessible for these teams. The RSS and BJP have by no means understood the worth of schooling. Their politics is round faith and division they usually need to finish these academic institutes. Dr Ambedkar used to say that those that get schooling will elevate their voice, and that is what the BJP doesn’t need.

Elections in Gujarat and Himachal Pradesh are approaching. Does the Azad Samaj Get together have a plan for these elections?

AZAD: In each the states, now we have a powerful organisation. We have now raised problems with the individuals and have led their struggles. We consider in elevating our voice on primary points… I can be going to Himachal Pradesh. We are going to contest the elections there with full power. If there’s a risk of an alliance there, we’ll focus on it.

You latterly met OBC chief from Madhya Pradesh’s Chambal area Pritam Singh Lodhi, who has been expelled from the BJP. Is there one thing on the playing cards for MP, the place elections are scheduled late in 2023?

AZAD: Greater than the Legislative Meeting elections, I really feel what’s necessary is the problem of reservation in panchayat elections in MP, the place the quota for OBC communities ought to be 27%. We’re uniting the OBCs, Dalits and minorities there and dealing with them. We’re working with the OBC and tribal outfits. We need to do what has by no means occurred within the state, which is to make an Adivasi the CM of MP. We’re engaged on the bottom to make the Adivasis perceive the worth of their vote. We are attempting to kind a coalition of management from these teams and we’ll contest elections below the coalition. We’re making related efforts in Rajasthan and Chhattisgarh.

In Delhi, we noticed the resignation of Minister Rajendra Pal Gautam over participation in a conversion occasion, after he was attacked by BJP leaders. The BJP has alleged that ‘anti-Hindu’ statements had been made on the occasion. AAP didn’t come out in assist of Gautam. How do you see AAP’s function on the problem?

AZAD: He was pressured to resign by AAP… Bhim Military members had reached the police station the place Gautam was taken (for questioning). Individuals from his social gathering didn’t come, however we supported him. The police needed to let him go. A few issues are clear after this. The BJP talks of Dr Ambedkar and says it desires to satisfy his goals, and so does AAP. And but the 22 resolutions on the Delhi occasion (which the BJP took exception to) had been framed by Dr Ambedkar when he accepted Buddhism… He had mentioned that whereas it was past his management that he was born within the Hindu faith, it was in his management to not die a Hindu. The resolutions he took when he accepted Buddhism included that he not thought-about Hindu deities his God. And this isn’t disrespect. If I don’t contemplate a deity my God, then it isn’t disrespect. It might be disrespect if I say one thing in opposition to a deity.

Now, let’s get again to Gautam and his resignation. Who complained in opposition to him? The BJP state president of Delhi. Who pressured him to resign? AAP and Arvind Kejriwal. Meaning each are utilizing Ambedkar’s title and simply need the votes of people that consider in Ambedkar. They’re uncovered now. Individuals from Dalit, backward and minority communities who consider in Ambedkar shouldn’t fall into the entice of AAP.